Lerakant wrote: Hi farrier
Welcome to this forum and welcome to this lifestyle â€“ nothing would alarm me more than to think that my post would in any way divert you from following this site to the letter!
Personally when I came across Paleo (a month before OMS) I quit dairy immediately â€“ all programs would have you quit dairy and I urge you to do so immediately â€“ people seem to find it harder than meat to quit so please stop that immediately and as you continue your investigations (and read George's book) you will soon discover why because it can trigger relapses and disease progression. I avoid it even in microscopic quantities.
Thanks for the welcome. I am sure the reality and the truth of OMS will catch up with me sooner than later, and I'll change my diet totally. I do understand about the difficulties and dangers of testing the old diet / lifestyle on the body system, under the new diet.
As to meat, there is evidence that it causes cancer, and evidence that red meat is particularly bad for MS. Drop all red meat in any quantity, preferably all meat.
I have seen recommendations that skinless boneless chicken breast (not thigh) is okay once in a while but I would rather not do that either. I don't think you'll find many people here who would condone it, or entertain it for themselves.
If you follow scientific studies about foods, just about everything causes cancer when over fed to lab animals, I'm not denigrating the studies, but after 54 years of eating meat, and being an ardent amateur cook, competition BBQ cook, hunter and all around carnivore, I'd be surprised if continuing to eat meat, will cause cancer that I don't already have. The kick down on the recovery is where I see the probably problems, (in my case), and I don't want to threaten the chances of continuing recovery, so like most idiots, I'll probably try to eat the old way at least once.
Fish I also always loved too, and I'm jealous that you fish for yourself! Nevertheless fish is also animal flesh and should be consumed in moderation â€“ focusing on the smaller species lower down the food chain in order to avoid toxins in the environment which swirl around the oceans disregarding any boundaries â€“ mercury being one of them, plastics being another. Goodness those what other pollutants. Aim for at least 2 flesh-free days. Prefer oily fish for their Omega 3 content.
The Trout I eat are not really susceptible to most of the run off pollution problems, (there are PCB and Mercury problems at some of the lower altitudes, and in some specific lakes), as I'm fishing mountain lakes and rivers over 5,000', for the river fish, and over 7,500' for the mountain lakes, I even caught a couple of Tiger Trout at 9,800' last week.
Read both of Professor J's books starting with Overcoming MS â€“ then read The China Study too, then watch Forks Over Knives.
As Veg, says in her reply to my post, a post that was intended only to help one of my friends and his children (they don't have MS, but he and his wife are both very obese, and two kids 5, and 1) and which I now very much regret and would have removed if a moderator so judges: people will find any excuse to keep doing what they have been doing and love doing â€“ don't be one of them!
The reading and watching is on my list, I have the books on order at the library.
As an ex morbidly obese person, I was over 460 lbs 3 years ago, but changes to my diet, and getting off my ass and out fishing for the last 20 months have got me down to 247 lbs already. I'm try not to be an Ostrich about it, but I want to shake the bars of the diet cage and scream that life'snot fair!
There are many wiser heads than mine on this site (including Veg) who can help you on your road to recovery which is a bright and sunny road and the diet and lifestyle is a wonderful way to live! Keep coming back to this forum and you will find many compassionate why is people who will help you. Do not forget the meditation.
Welcome, good luck, and good health!
You're all stuck with me, (I'm afraid), as the site with the most interesting and positive information, (even if I'm kicking and screaming now), I'll be a limpet with the mouth and gut of a leach, I intend to turn my MS around and be fit, healthy and mobile until senility takes me, however soon that is!