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jecca wrote: I find carbohydrates are more fattening than fat! I eat lots of bread, pasta, grains and rice and nuts, seeds, and pulses as as well as fruit, vegetables (including starchy vegetables) and seafood and if anything am putting on weight....
I've been wondering about carbohydrate intake levels. My current vague thought is that we need enough for what we burn in exercise and metabolism, so think of carbs as fuel. Too little and we eat into reserves, too much and we build energy stores.

Not directly MS related (its aimed at sports people) but as a thumbnail sketch, I found this interesting http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/omega-3-omega-6.html (I haven't checked at all, so have been lazy as Erasmus would put it). In essence EFAs influence the genes, which control many factors - including the bias of fat versus carbohydrate storage.

Beyond some insulation and cushioning (which clothes can compensate for) I'm unclear what body fat deposits do for us (that is good) (although once they'd have been the store that got us through winter starvation).

Is it that we have a deep cultural bias that equates body fat to success, plentiful food, being top of the pecking order. Once fattening the infant was high in a mother's objectives. That and fattening the pig. But we've moved on. Just as Erasmus says "... May the worship of diseases die with us". In time society will wake up, we're just pioneers.
The Carbohydrates comment is interesting because when i first started the diet, Pasta meals and high carbohydrate meals were on high rotation and as i explored more recipes i tended inadvertently to go away from these meals. its time to bring some of them back into the mix!, plus some flax seed oil.

i am still getting some humour from the "michelin" comment thanks mess positive

thanks all, be well

neale
1st sign no diagnosis Oct 1999, DX 2007, SPMS 2011.
jecca wrote: I find carbohydrates are more fattening than fat! I eat lots of bread, pasta, grains and rice and nuts, seeds, and pulses as as well as fruit, vegetables (including starchy vegetables) and seafood and if anything am putting on weight....


I've been worried that I've doing the diet wrong since I'm not losing any weight but I'm glad to here I'm not the only one who hasn't lost weight. I keep rereading the book and the website to make sure I'm doing everything right and it seems that I am. I guess I'll just keep at it!
I am losing weight too.

I have been on the diet 8 weeks or so, eat like a horse :lol: and have lost 6 kg so far. I use olive oil everyday in some form of cooking or cake or cookies or hommus.

The difference for me is that I needed to lose weight but I can see if it keeps going this way my family will soon say something......my husband is not happy with me not eating at least some meat, on occassion, as he feels I wont have enough fat in my diet. I have now told him this is actually a high fat diet...but good fats not bad!!

I figure my body will eventually work out its happy weight and I figure if you feel well then who else is to tell you its no good or you should "cheat" to gain more weight.

I think this forum and the book helps us see that specialist, doctors don't know everyone....bless their cotton socks....they only know what the latest research says as being corrrect....
You know...dont eat eggs..oh now eat eggs.....dont eat potatoes...oh now eat potatoes....eat low fat....no dont worry about low fat go for low GI.....seriously do they really know for sure???? It's different every year.

Go with your gut I say...as long as your not sick, exhausted and you are getting all your nutrients...go for it!!!

A good book about nutrients is Becoming Vegan by Davis Melina...tells you how to get them all on a Vegan lifestyle but you can also add fish to that.

lusky wrote: my family is concerned about the amount of weight I am losing, i am of tall and skinny build anyway so i didnt need to lose any wieght.
my GP says i need to add more calories back into my diet.

my question is how can i safely do that without adding fats?
ps, i am already a very big eater.

thanks in advance
neale
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