No worries Martin, we are all here to support each other. Having MS is no picnic. It's the nature of depression too to beat up on yourself, and it helps to recognise that. You sometimes think you've done everything wrong, when actually you have done the best you could, and done wonderful things for your loved ones. If you ask I think you will find they are happy, and proud of you. They can see that things are tough for you, but you keep on keeping on. Be kind to yourself. Things will be better. Loz.