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Hi there,
I think that I have poor breathing, and that I am a "mouth breather" (and upper chest ) which I am sure contributes to my fatigue.
I don't belly breathe enough, so I have decided to do a course with the Buteyko breathing clinic and wondered if anyone else has done this course and how they found it.
Thanks for your time...
Love and light
Rose x
Hi Rose, it was recommended to me by Dr Frances Pitsilis but I didn't have the to money to invest so I researched the technique on youtube and was able to correct my breathing as I too had slipped into bad habits after a year of living with chronic pain.

Didn't make any difference to my fatigue personally but I would imagine it certainly has the potential to help. Probably most people would not be breathing properly if checked, with MS or not.

Let us know how you go.
Dx 1992 OMS 25-2-09
Thanks for the reply Kashu. I agree with you about most people breathing incorrectly as I have really noticed my son breathing poorly too. I'm hoping it will help my breathing as i find that my entire upper chest raises up each time I take a breath.... That's got to be taking a lot of energy. I'm hopeful it will help at least. I'll let you know if I notice a change.
Thanks once again :D
Love and light
Rose x
Hi Rose,
Here is a short study in relation to fatigue and ginseng. You may find it useful.
MSBlog: Ginseng for MS-related fatigue.

Epub: Etemadifar et al. Ginseng in the Treatment of Fatigue in Multiple Sclerosis: A Randomized Placebo-Controlled Double-Blind Pilot Study. Int J Neurosci. 2013 Jan.

Background: Fatigue is one of the common complaints of MSers and its treatment is relatively unclear. Ginseng is one of the herbal medicines possessing anti-fatigue properties and its administration in MS for such a purpose has been scarcely evaluated. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the efficacy and safety of ginseng in the treatment of fatigue and the quality of life of MS patients.

Methods: Eligible female MSers were randomized in a double-blind manner, to receive 250mg ginseng or placebo twice daily over three months. Outcome measures included the Modified Fatigue Impact Scale (MFIS) and the Iranian version of the Multiple Sclerosis Quality Of Life Questionnaire (MSQOL-54). The questionnaires were used after randomization; and again at the end of the study.

Results: Of 60 MSers who were enrolled in the study, 52 (86%) subjects completed the trial with good drug tolerance. Statistical analysis showed better effects for ginseng than the placebo as regards MFIS (p = 0.046) and MSQOL (p ≤ 0.0001) after three months. No serious adverse events were observed during follow-up.


Conclusions: This study indicates that three months' ginseng treatment can reduce fatigue and has a significant positive effect on quality of life. Ginseng is probably a good candidate for the relief of MS-related fatigue. Further studies are needed to shed light on the efficacy of ginseng in this field.

Cinders x
Sorry for replying to your post rather late Cinders,
I have enrolled in this breathing clinic which I am confident will help. My goal for this year is to lower my fatigue.
And thank you for posting this article. I am going to cut out sugar entirely first.
Lately I have been reminded that sugar isn't a "wholefood" and should be avoided plus recently reading Dr Corthal's work she claims that sugar should be avoided too. Her study on MS being a metabolic disease really interests me, George posted a link on Dr Corthal a while ago. http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis. ... t+disease/ . Personally I have always doubted that my body metabolises food very efficiently. When I was 18 I developed kidney stones. Uric acid stones form due to a metabolic problem so this urged me to see a Naturopath. She said that my body does not absorb nutrients from the food that I eat very well at all. Despite what I would consider being brought up on a healthy, mediterranean diet I was however, brought up as a meat eater with Olive oil present at all 3 meals. I always wondered what that white creamy stuff on my friends sandwhiches or vegetables was!! I never experienced one fat day in my life ( not underweight by any means but well within normal limits for age/weight ). I feel that I seem to have had problems with digestion as long as I can remember. Anyway back to the fatigue, I will see if ceasing consumption of refined sugar COMPLETELY makes a difference, combined with breathing retraining. Despite the outcome I know that my sweet tooth has to go for GOOD!!
Thanks for your time again....
Love and light
Rose x
I am still looking for reliable breathing clinic in this local are and when I got any place surely recommend you.
Hi there,
I am in New Zealand. Along way from you unfortunately..
I found youtube videos helpfull so didn't need to pay for breathing clinic. Will depend on how bad you are though.

Some physiotherapists have training in this and is less cost.
Dx 1992 OMS 25-2-09
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